One of my favorite things about this week’s Practical Product Management episode wasn’t just the content (though yes, we did gleefully trash MVPs and talk FAFO).
It was the banter.
There’s an ease that comes when you sit down with people you’ve been in the trenches with — building products, leading teams, navigating messy stakeholder dynamics, and making decisions with incomplete information. You share a shorthand. A trust. A willingness to poke fun at each other and push on the harder truths.
That kind of rapport doesn’t come from a framework or a playbook. It comes from doing the work together, over time. It’s why the conversation flowed so easily with Marilyn, Geno and Alesha: we’ve all felt the pain of iteration gone wrong, the tension of “business vs. product,” and the joy of solving a problem creatively as a team.
If anything, the laughter in the clip is a reminder that product leadership is a team sport. The best insights often emerge not from a polished deck, but from honest back-and-forth with people you trust.
So maybe the real takeaway isn’t just “MVPs are trash.”
It’s that the best product conversations happen in good company.